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	<title>Comments on: Comparison Between Zend and CakePHP Framework</title>
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		<title>By: May be</title>
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		<dc:creator>May be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry , I don&#039;t think Zend has a good documentation which helps to learn quickly for a newbie :( . 
Sorry and I strictly disagree with it . As I was new to MVC and frameworks and to my experience with these .

But ZF may come with a better example in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry , I don&#8217;t think Zend has a good documentation which helps to learn quickly for a newbie <img src='http://www.webappers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  .<br />
Sorry and I strictly disagree with it . As I was new to MVC and frameworks and to my experience with these .</p>
<p>But ZF may come with a better example in future.</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
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		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Documentation:

The main problem with using ANY framework is it can be a bit tricky to work out how to do anything compared to plain php.  Therefore documentation is an absolutely critical factor.

ZF documentation is quite frustrating to use. It tends to give very specific information, that often is not very complete. There is no comments section to the documentation like php.net or cakes documentation, so there is nowhere for users to expand on the extremely terse docs. 

o, and my disclaimer: im a web developer using ZF for 90% of my current commerical and garage projects.</description>
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<p>The main problem with using ANY framework is it can be a bit tricky to work out how to do anything compared to plain php.  Therefore documentation is an absolutely critical factor.</p>
<p>ZF documentation is quite frustrating to use. It tends to give very specific information, that often is not very complete. There is no comments section to the documentation like php.net or cakes documentation, so there is nowhere for users to expand on the extremely terse docs. </p>
<p>o, and my disclaimer: im a web developer using ZF for 90% of my current commerical and garage projects.</p>
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		<title>By: wese</title>
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		<dc:creator>wese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a fan of CakePHP when php5 was &#039;new&#039;, but since they hold on to the php4 i wonder what will happen with php6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a fan of CakePHP when php5 was &#8216;new&#8217;, but since they hold on to the php4 i wonder what will happen with php6.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-o</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any framework that uses the ridiculous PHP4 faux-object model already has a strike against it and should be discarded immediately. End of debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any framework that uses the ridiculous PHP4 faux-object model already has a strike against it and should be discarded immediately. End of debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Maks All Read - PHP &#171; Umumi Hela ve Özgürlük</title>
		<link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/12/12/comparison-between-zend-and-cakephp-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-20388</link>
		<dc:creator>Maks All Read - PHP &#171; Umumi Hela ve Özgürlük</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Şurada Zend ve Cake karşılaştırılmış [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wil Sinclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chucho @Nate: I agree with Nate that this is a flawed characterization. I know of a pretty extensive list of no-nonsense commercial users of Cake. On the other hand, I know of a lot of amateur developers working on hobbyist sites with Zend. In particular, I don&#039;t see how this characterization brings any light in to the discussion.
I find these discussions useful only when we all stick to the facts. For example, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s very helpful for someone to say &#039;I like this framework&#039; in a comment. Why do you like it? What does it offer that others don&#039;t? And, if we&#039;re going to stick to facts, we better make sure that no framework is mis-represented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chucho @Nate: I agree with Nate that this is a flawed characterization. I know of a pretty extensive list of no-nonsense commercial users of Cake. On the other hand, I know of a lot of amateur developers working on hobbyist sites with Zend. In particular, I don&#8217;t see how this characterization brings any light in to the discussion.<br />
I find these discussions useful only when we all stick to the facts. For example, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s very helpful for someone to say &#8216;I like this framework&#8217; in a comment. Why do you like it? What does it offer that others don&#8217;t? And, if we&#8217;re going to stick to facts, we better make sure that no framework is mis-represented.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chucho: I&#039;d say that&#039;s a fairly uneducated comment.  CakePHP has a long list of big-business users and case studies to back it&#039;s quality and readiness for large-scale projects.  The fact that &quot;nobody got fired for picking Zend&quot; does not detract from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chucho: I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a fairly uneducated comment.  CakePHP has a long list of big-business users and case studies to back it&#8217;s quality and readiness for large-scale projects.  The fact that &#8220;nobody got fired for picking Zend&#8221; does not detract from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Cheung&#8217;s Blog: Comparison Between Zend and CakePHP Framework : Dragonfly Networks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cheung&#8217;s Blog: Comparison Between Zend and CakePHP Framework : Dragonfly Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cheung posted his comparison of the Zend Framework and CakePHP a little while back to share some of the thoughts and research he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ray Cheung&#8217;s Blog: Comparison Between Zend and CakePHP Framework : WebNetiques</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cheung&#8217;s Blog: Comparison Between Zend and CakePHP Framework : WebNetiques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cheung posted his comparison of the Zend Framework and CakePHP a little while back to share some of the thoughts and research he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chucho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chucho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop all this Cake Vs Zend nonsense! Zend is an enterprise framework, used by certified software engineers. Cake is a garage framework used by webmasters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop all this Cake Vs Zend nonsense! Zend is an enterprise framework, used by certified software engineers. Cake is a garage framework used by webmasters.</p>
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