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> <channel><title>Comments on: Zend Leading Open Source PHP Framework</title> <atom:link href="http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/</link> <description>- Hunting the Best Open Source Resources for Web Developers</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:37:58 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Mr.MoOx</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3949</link> <dc:creator>Mr.MoOx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3949</guid> <description>Do you know that Google and IBM support this framework?!
I dont think so for Symfony...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know that Google and IBM support this framework?!<br
/> I dont think so for Symfony&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Larry</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3942</link> <dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:16:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3942</guid> <description>Having used both, I find Symfony significantly easier to use, more robust, more mature, with superior documentation, and vastly superior adoption and critical mass.  The &quot;M&quot; part of MVC in ZF is a joke, and the &quot;C&quot; part offers endless complexity.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having used both, I find Symfony significantly easier to use, more robust, more mature, with superior documentation, and vastly superior adoption and critical mass.  The &#8220;M&#8221; part of MVC in ZF is a joke, and the &#8220;C&#8221; part offers endless complexity.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr.MoOx</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3639</link> <dc:creator>Mr.MoOx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:49:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3639</guid> <description>Websites:
http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Tutorial
http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/ !!
http://www.zftutorials.com/
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-php-zend1/Books:
http://www.zendframeworkinaction.com/
http://www.phparch.com/c/books/id/9780973862157Is it enough? :)PS: Take 5 minutes to see new components Zend_Form &amp; Zend_Layout. There are very great ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Websites:<br
/> <a
href="http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Tutorial" rel="nofollow">http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Tutorial</a><br
/> <a
href="http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/" rel="nofollow">http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/</a> !!<br
/> <a
href="http://www.zftutorials.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zftutorials.com/</a><br
/> <a
href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-php-zend1/" rel="nofollow">http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-php-zend1/</a></p><p>Books:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.zendframeworkinaction.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zendframeworkinaction.com/</a><br
/> <a
href="http://www.phparch.com/c/books/id/9780973862157" rel="nofollow">http://www.phparch.com/c/books/id/9780973862157</a></p><p>Is it enough? <img
src='http://www.webappers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>PS: Take 5 minutes to see new components Zend_Form &amp; Zend_Layout. There are very great <img
src='http://www.webappers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Achi</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3628</link> <dc:creator>Achi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:16:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3628</guid> <description>I&#039;m going to have to agree with Ritesh. I&#039;ve tried to pick up the Zend Framework several times, though each time I try, I find myself giving up in frustration due to the lack of documentation.Zend is in the market to make money, though then again, whose not? It&#039;s just, as far as I can tell, they don&#039;t have any direct easy to follow sources that walk you through on how to do anything. Perhaps I am not pro enough to learn the framework - I only have a year or two of PHP experience under my belt.If Zend is so great, please point to where I can learn it and master it without the constant frustration. Thanks! :)~Achi</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to have to agree with Ritesh. I&#8217;ve tried to pick up the Zend Framework several times, though each time I try, I find myself giving up in frustration due to the lack of documentation.</p><p>Zend is in the market to make money, though then again, whose not? It&#8217;s just, as far as I can tell, they don&#8217;t have any direct easy to follow sources that walk you through on how to do anything. Perhaps I am not pro enough to learn the framework &#8211; I only have a year or two of PHP experience under my belt.</p><p>If Zend is so great, please point to where I can learn it and master it without the constant frustration. Thanks! <img
src='http://www.webappers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>~Achi</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ritesh</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3257</link> <dc:creator>Ritesh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:17:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3257</guid> <description>Every one is talking like they  get extreme support from Zend. Sorry but even i am good programmer and i didn&#039;t find anything helpful to start a good project with Zend Framework.Plight on this is there is no Book available. I am wondering how you guys are supporting a framework which is most non supportive ever in in the industry.What about their marketing. PHP is FREE so are most of the frameworks CAKE, symphony etc. Still we are preferring Zend. Anyways, i am not against Zend at all but there must be support for the framework, books, help manuals etc. don&#039;t talk about zend manual its nothing but a marketing strategy.Think why PHP is so popular? Support and ease. Where does Zend Stands.How many projects are done in Zend and how many people knows it. Not everyone will be against a good framework but support factor kill everyone sometimes in critical situation.Also, how many people knows the framework. They want people to learn from them only @ $2200. Do you think developers in developing nation with high currency conversion rate can afford it. Simple guess NO. So eventually other frameworks will kill them and Zend will kill their marketing guys. It&#039;s not always about making money but sharing what is developed. Think about Google&#039;s success OR be as good as Mr. Bill Gates to lead from front otherwise you are gone.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every one is talking like they  get extreme support from Zend. Sorry but even i am good programmer and i didn&#8217;t find anything helpful to start a good project with Zend Framework.</p><p>Plight on this is there is no Book available. I am wondering how you guys are supporting a framework which is most non supportive ever in in the industry.</p><p>What about their marketing. PHP is FREE so are most of the frameworks CAKE, symphony etc. Still we are preferring Zend. Anyways, i am not against Zend at all but there must be support for the framework, books, help manuals etc. don&#8217;t talk about zend manual its nothing but a marketing strategy.</p><p>Think why PHP is so popular? Support and ease. Where does Zend Stands.</p><p>How many projects are done in Zend and how many people knows it. Not everyone will be against a good framework but support factor kill everyone sometimes in critical situation.</p><p>Also, how many people knows the framework. They want people to learn from them only @ $2200. Do you think developers in developing nation with high currency conversion rate can afford it. Simple guess NO. So eventually other frameworks will kill them and Zend will kill their marketing guys. It&#8217;s not always about making money but sharing what is developed. Think about Google&#8217;s success OR be as good as Mr. Bill Gates to lead from front otherwise you are gone.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gee</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3039</link> <dc:creator>Gee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:42:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3039</guid> <description>Matt,
Yeah, I think you can say anything you want.  My post has nothing to do with stoppppping u from doing that.  I&#039;m just saying; relax, chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br
/> Yeah, I think you can say anything you want.  My post has nothing to do with stoppppping u from doing that.  I&#8217;m just saying; relax, chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3032</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3032</guid> <description>@Gee, @Mr.MoOxMy comments were not about the framework, at all... Only about the intentions for the origination of the article, thats all.@Gee... I was not upset in my writing that comment. Am I not allowed to express my opinion on this site in regards to an article like everyone else?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gee, @Mr.MoOx</p><p>My comments were not about the framework, at all&#8230; Only about the intentions for the origination of the article, thats all.</p><p>@Gee&#8230; I was not upset in my writing that comment. Am I not allowed to express my opinion on this site in regards to an article like everyone else?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr.MoOx</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3031</link> <dc:creator>Mr.MoOx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3031</guid> <description>Hehe! Zf is a really good project. I use it from more than  8 months and love it!.
Like Gee said &quot;Give it a try and then speak&quot; !!PS: For frenchy there is a good site: http://www.z-f.fr</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe! Zf is a really good project. I use it from more than  8 months and love it!.<br
/> Like Gee said &#8220;Give it a try and then speak&#8221; !!</p><p>PS: For frenchy there is a good site: <a
href="http://www.z-f.fr" rel="nofollow">http://www.z-f.fr</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gee</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3027</link> <dc:creator>Gee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:32:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3027</guid> <description>Matt,Chill out buddy!  The ZendFramwork is by far the most loosely
coupled framework out there.  I use cake, symfony, and rails.
ZendF is going to become the main for php though.
Look...
1).  Do Not need CLI to create app
2).  Code is phenomenally clean
3).  Plugin architecure is much cleaner.
4).  Did I mention TRUE loose couplingGive it a try and then speak.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p><p>Chill out buddy!  The ZendFramwork is by far the most loosely<br
/> coupled framework out there.  I use cake, symfony, and rails.<br
/> ZendF is going to become the main for php though.<br
/> Look&#8230;<br
/> 1).  Do Not need CLI to create app<br
/> 2).  Code is phenomenally clean<br
/> 3).  Plugin architecure is much cleaner.<br
/> 4).  Did I mention TRUE loose coupling</p><p>Give it a try and then speak.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ray Cheung</title><link>http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3026</link> <dc:creator>Ray Cheung</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 04:07:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webappers.com/2008/01/05/zend-leading-open-source-php-framework/#comment-3026</guid> <description>@ MattThis is not a paid post. All paid posts will be put under &quot;Review&quot; categories.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt</p><p>This is not a paid post. All paid posts will be put under &#8220;Review&#8221; categories.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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